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Hello. I’m a little confused by the answers you’ve been giving to people’s questions. You said previously “Belz is a very nice Chassidus with very open and welcoming people, especially towards baalei teshuva and geirim” but then you later said that to date a geir wouldn’t be ideal (“I wouldn’t even date this girl after her conversion.”…”It’s just too confusing for both sides and in the future, especially, for the children.”) because they come from a different background. The two ideas are not congruous. You said it’s not discrimination but the definition of discrimination is “prejudicial treatment of an individual based on their membership - or perceived membership - in a certain group or category.” Not to be rude but you prejudging someone based on their status of a geir kind of falls into the category of prejudging based on membership of a certain category, even if that wasn’t your intention. It would be unfortunate if someone perceived your answers in a negative or discriminatory light. Based on your answers, the attitude seems to be “welcome to the community, you’re in! But sorry, no one would ideally marry you, but still, welcome!” It’s contradictory.
The ‘I wouldn’t even date this girl after her conversion’ was meant to the context of that question. That is, someone who dated a Jew while still being nonJewish.
When I’m talking about a different background, I’m not talking about for instance an American & a Spanish background. I’m talking about a totally different world.
A goyishe world vs a Chassidic one. A secular one vs a very religious and closed one. Whether we like it or not, the world we grew up in will always affect and influence us, even in the tiniest of things. There are just many things a geir/gioyres won’t ‘get’ as easily as someone who grew up Chassidish does and vice-versa. But the same thing also applies to a lot of non-Chassidic, more modern religious Jews!
People have to remember we are talking of the Chassidic world here. Me writing English like this is more or less a miracle. And me being on tumblr is already a BIG thing (read: a No-No) in our community. If my rosh yeshive or mashgiach found out, I probably have to look for a new yeshive. Knowing that no prestigious Chassidic yeshive would ever accept me.. And I have to admit, me being on here, or on the internet bichlal, already somewhat affects me in my thinking. So let alone someone who grew up in a total different environment.
As I’ve said many times before, it’s better for everyone if they have the same backgrounds. Like that they can relate better to each other. Understand each other better and actually know what the other is talking about.
Once, I introduced a Baal Teshuva friend of mine to some of my other (frum from birth Chassidisher) friends. During the conversation the BT friend started to talk about certain things. But my chassidisher friends really didn’t know what he was talking about. Why? Simply because they didn’t grow up with those things (and also had never been on the internet before).
So for someone who grew up Chassidish to marry a giyores/geir might be somewhat problematic. But there are lots of other Chassidic Baalei Teshuva and geirim they could marry. And their children will be heimishe Chassidishe boys/girls who won’t have to deal with this. Because after all, they grew up just like any other chossid.